Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/04/Category:Collections of the Museum für Asiatische Kunst

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Category:Collections of the Museum für Asiatische Kunst[edit]

I have nothing against having museum names in their original languages, like here in German, but using half-German and half-English at some parts of the cat tree and all subcats in English, as in the case of Category:Collection of South, Southeast and Central Asian Art (Museum of Asian Art) is quite confusing. Also the relationship between this museum and the Ethnographical Museum in Berlin seems to have been intermingled in the cat tree. Maybe it's my confusion, but even if that is the case, it means the categorization tree is not so clear. E4024 (talk) 03:42, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

enwiki main article is under en:Museum of Asian Art. So we should use this English name in all related categories Estopedist1 (talk) 19:33, 29 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I checked what the relevant Humboldt Forum page has on offer. I asked for the English version, and got: "Exhibition / Ethnologisches Museum and Museum für Asiatische Kunst / New Presentation of the Collections
multifaceted spacious surprising" . So the museum itself seems to stick to the German name, mixing it with English other texts. The SMB site speaks of "Museum für Asiatische Kunst (Asian Art Museum)", translating the Museum für Asiatische Kunst slightly different to Museum of Asian Art. As the collections have moved I think it makes more sense to reorganize the categories as a whole, than haggle about this name. The discussion is now almost 1,5 years old, and seems to be uninteresting to all but E4024, who is no longer active on Wikimedia Commons.Dosseman (talk) 11:07, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
some facts:
  1. Museum für Asiatische Kunst and Ethnologisches Museum are technically two different museums, even though they might be located in the same compounds.
  2. https://www.smb.museum/en/museums-institutions/museum-fuer-asiatische-kunst/about-us/profile/ calls itself Asian Art Museum.
  3. https://www.smb.museum/en/museums-institutions/ethnologisches-museum/about-us/profile/ calls itself Ethnological Museum.
  4. but the two museums' collections are exhibited together as a permanent exhibition called Ethnological Collections and Asian Art at Humboldt Forum: https://www.smb.museum/en/museums-institutions/museum-fuer-asiatische-kunst/exhibitions/detail/ethnological-collections-and-asian-art/ "Ethnological Collections and Asian Art... On the two upper floors of the Humboldt Forum’s West Wing, exhibits from the world-renowned collections of the Ethnologisches Museum (Ethnological Museum) and the Museum für Asiatische Kunst (Asian Art Museum) of the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin (National Museums in Berlin) showcase the world’s civilizations..."
my opinions:
  1. english name of Museum für Asiatische Kunst should best be resolved with a consultation of the museum itself. using the german name or any english translation is ok for a temporary basis. if the museum uses the german name also for english texts, then follow.
  2. use Ethnological Museum for Ethnologisches Museum.
  3. if the artworks are part of the Category:Ethnological Collections and Asian Art, then put it in that. that cat would be a subcat of both the ethno museum and the asian art museum.
  4. if the artworks are categorised by collection, they should go to either category of "collections of xx museum".
RZuo (talk) 08:02, 14 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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